Curse

Nevin · Feb 07, 2006, 03:32 AM // 03:32

Bleh Runescape, the only problem with merchanting is its so time consuming, I could be farming with all the time spent selling... Thats why GW needs an Auction House system.

duanstar · Feb 07, 2006, 05:54 AM // 05:54

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Originally Posted by capblueberry

so merchanting is the best way to make money, reminds me of a little game i used to play called runescape, i made millions buyin low and sellin high

Nostalgia... =D

However, you really didn't even need to merchant on RS. Although it did help (I remember merchanting natures for 8 hours a day for a few weeks to earn like a mil a day...), a major key to doing well was also hording rares and playing at the beginning of the game when all the rares were cheap.

Unfortunately, this is a fact that is starting to relate to GWs more and more by the day. RS's party hats and masks have turned into HoDs and nerfed farming golds that were once looted by the hundreds of griffons and smite crawlers. Now, breaking into the economy is just like buying your first Phat--it's pretty much near impossible, without ebaying. Ironically, Anet's attempts to curb ebaying have led to even more reason to buy gold on the web.

mickyo5 · Feb 24, 2006, 08:40 AM // 08:40

the idea for an auction room say a place on the map solely for sellin and buyin. That would be a brill idea. It would stop everyone rippin off the noobs in ascalon city. Has anyone posted this idea to area net

funbun · Feb 24, 2006, 11:36 AM // 11:36

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Originally Posted by mickyo5

the idea for an auction room say a place on the map solely for sellin and buyin. That would be a brill idea. It would stop everyone rippin off the noobs in ascalon city. Has anyone posted this idea to area net

Yes, there are tons of threads about this very idea. I think Anet has heard the call. I don't know why they never put an auction house in Prophecies, but Factions will have an auction house. I think Factions will correct a lot of things that went wrong in Prophecies.

Until then just spread the word about the gwguru's ebay style auction. I just tell ppl about the auction here, and I usually give out the url for the auctions. Even if only one person start using the auctions here it's one less person in LA spamming WTS Uber 1337 vampiric sword of doomy mcdoom doom, 500k

And it's Arenanet. I always thought it was Area net which makes more sense but...

Gonzo · Feb 24, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29

I want a doomy mcdoom doom sword

Caged Fury · Feb 24, 2006, 12:48 PM // 12:48

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

I want a doomy mcdoom doom sword

WTS Uber 1337 vampiric sword of doomy mcdoom doom, 500k. For you Gonzo, 600K.

I've given up on making money. The novelty of farming the same things over and over again has lost it's appeal. I'd rather spend my time exploring new areas and being challenged by newer, harder monsters. I guess as someone who has yet to complete the game, visit UW/FOW/SF - I still have plenty of things to keep me occupied.

Ninjutsu Honor Code · Feb 24, 2006, 01:27 PM // 13:27

[QUOTE=Roza]

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Originally Posted by AncientPC

1) Farming
2) Trading
3) Running
4) eBay

Very true. Hence my whining.

1) Farming = grind. Boring
2) Trading = slow. Boring. Out-witting the newbies? I don't like it.
3) Running = Hard for non-primary warriors and you tend to ruin the game for those you run ("lvl 10 in Thunderhead LFG") AND ruin the lower lvl Arena's too.
4) eBay = Against the rules and rather pathetic, imo.

There is 5): winning HoH often. That is not a realistic option for most players, though. (The number of people able to do that is limited: only 8 people can do that at any one moment).

My wish:
1. that quests (such as the harder quests like the titan quests) would yield more gold (perhaps by adding a gold reward)
2. That people here would stop pointing out that you do not NEED gold.

If the quests in FoW would yield gold instead of useless xp there would be no problem obtaining obsidian armor (And dont come with that crap it would eb too easy then it still would take long but not forever).

Raxxman · Feb 24, 2006, 01:35 PM // 13:35

I concur in FoW and Underworld, XP is useless, completing missions is only for DP reduction and personal challange enjoyment.

milan · Feb 24, 2006, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Spend some time in Sorrows Furnace, simple enough with the drops, the chests and the greens, although there are some real garbage greens.

btw- Anet have stated that there will be improvements to the trade system - not that there will be a auction house.

A Leprechaun · Mar 08, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29

whatever you do dont listen to me i cant make money!!

but i have got 15k enchanters armour

..........although i did just get lucky, find a sup vigor and sell it for 75k

did you listen?!?!?

Shaolin_Steve · Mar 08, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

..........although i did just get lucky, find a sup vigor and sell it for 75k

No way you sold the Sup Vig for 75k - unless you found king n00bness of the n00bs!

I think you mean Sup Absorb...

Elthanor · Apr 16, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46

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Originally Posted by Shaolin_Steve

No way you sold the Sup Vig for 75k - unless you found king n00bness of the n00bs!

I think you mean Sup Absorb...

Dang... he better mean Abos... i sold mine for 29k the other day...

Some people find farming a waste, and wonder why people do it. Its just another enjoyment in the game. I love to farm, loooking for new ways to farm all the time.

I usaly farm GF, Droks trolls, Minotaurs, also go for Chest runs outside port, but i usaly get items peopel dont want

Also, solo FOW with my ranger and warrior, but i dont depend on that... america never wins HOH.

GOOD LUCK AMERICA!!! YOU ROCK!!!

moo moo · Apr 16, 2006, 03:29 AM // 03:29

I didnt see him say he sold it this second? Sup vig used to be that high remember. Forge armor is cheap so i dont see the point of all this crying. You dont have to buy 15k or Fissure, or a Fellblade(Chaos also). People buy gold off E-bay to get not your everyday items. You want a 15^50 sword, theres a req. 9 one in the forge for 5k and materials, also a axe. E-bay doesnt change anything except for rune prices. Mateials can easily be farmed w/o any nerf. Greens are cheap also, remember when 30 HP shields went for tons of gold. Now you can get one for 75k, it also has another mod OMG. The only reason i have 2 sets of fissure is because my storage ran out lol. Also i got lucky when first started the game.

Arkantos · Apr 16, 2006, 04:10 AM // 04:10

Just like the real world Getting lucky with rare item=lottery, farming=job. Its not easy making money.

CleverLoginName · Apr 16, 2006, 06:14 AM // 06:14

I've never really spent more than 15k with any of my characters, i never need any more than that.

Thallandor · Apr 16, 2006, 09:27 AM // 09:27

/Sarcasm on

I think according to ANet you not suppose to have to make money, cause you see after you unlocked all the things you need for PvP there no real reason to have money at all since GW end game is PvP.

/Sarcasm off

whatever forms of farming you can afford the time to do will generally yield some gold just not as profitable as its used to with lesser options than before.

oHcHeese · Apr 16, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30

i just mis my noobism days...i didn't care about money than ! i remember having a req 13 6-27dmg white chaos axe with no mods, bought it for 1K, and i think i never was as proud as than !
now that those days are over, i spend days and weeks on farming...and that all for a perfect chaos axe...and farming these days ain't easy :|

Avarre · Apr 16, 2006, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by Raxxman

I concur in FoW and Underworld, XP is useless, completing missions is only for DP reduction and personal challange enjoyment.

Personal enjoyment is useless? Nice philosophy there.

Making money to have what you want is easy... fow/uw provides. Making enough to be obscenely rich needs luck. Focus on just having enough to not run out first, and maybe you'll get lucky in the meantime..

Gun Pierson · Apr 16, 2006, 10:47 AM // 10:47

For pve players it's nice to get some special skin armor and weapons, even though they won't make you any better. The fact is this stuff costs a lot, otherwise everybody would have it. I think this is nothing special and it's just the way things go in life.

As the game is out for about a year now, more pve players got to the point where they've beaten the game and look for other goals, like fow armor for example. I think Anet doesn't want to loose these veterans as they help sell the game and expansion. So they made nerfs on several aspects of the game to slow down the process and keep players hooked. Which is in my opinion just good marketing.

This is in contradiction with Anet's struggle to fight ebay sellers though. Which I think is not the only way but one of the fastest ways to achieve gold if you have the cash. So basically this is Anet's prob, not ours. This is just the law of cause and effect and like with everything, there are two sides of the coin.

I disagree the endgame is about pvp only. Anet wants to attract both pve and pvp players or the combo of them. They could just have left the whole pve campaign and UW and stuff out and save a lot on development costs if that was their goal. Both pve and pvp are equally importent to them as they'll cover both segments of the market this way which results in more sales.

There are 3 types of players when it comes to gathering gold: Those who have lots of time to farm and play, those who have less time but real cash to buy gold and those who both have time and cash. The best position is the latter one ofcourse as you can do whatever you like to in that case. Time is money and money is time. Therefore I find it utterly bull when someone claims it's not fair to buy ebay gold. It has nothing to do with fairplay. It has all to do with the means available to get what you want, for some this is time for others it's cash and for some it's both.

Huntmaster · Apr 16, 2006, 10:59 AM // 10:59

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Originally Posted by Lady Cream

- buy on ebay (sadly the only realistic honest way to get fissure armor)

I should be getting my leggings by tomorrow night, to complete my FoW set. I've raised all the money myself by farming.. It was pretty real.